Difficult Controls?

Neo · 10-29-2009, 10:05 PM

I just bought Phantom Hourglass several hours ago, and I've already noticed that then controls are quite difficult to adapt to. Perhaps this is because I'm so used to using buttons. The new stylus-only control system is VERY different to me and is causing me problems for the first time ever in a Zelda game.

I was curious to see if anyone else found the controls difficult. Did you? Or am I alone?

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Seethe · 10-29-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo

I just bought Phantom Hourglass several hours ago, and I've already noticed that then controls are quite difficult to adapt to. Perhaps this is because I'm so used to using buttons. The new stylus-only control system is VERY different to me and is causing me problems for the first time ever in a Zelda game.

I was curious to see if anyone else found the controls difficult. Did you? Or am I alone?

Edit: As I've mentioned, I JUST bought this game. Please take this into account if you're going to share any information about the plot. Make use of the

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Phantom Hourglass was actually praised for its new, easier, stylus controls. The whole click-and-attack enemy controls makes the game a lot easier IMO and there is really no way to block any attacks with the shield. Its just there to block projectiles from the front only. Even with that, it's just a wooden one that you will have to re-buy after it burns up. There is no Hylian shield.

With all of that, I personally think the new controls made Phantom Hourglass very very easy. I think you're going to be alone with this one.

Welbanks · 10-30-2009, 12:00 AM

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I think you're going to be alone with this one.

Nah, I hated them quite a bit, kinda ruined the game for me.

I'm sick of gimmicky touch screen/motion controls. Like, for game franchises that started out having controls like that, thats one thing.
But when it comes to games like Mario and Zelda that everyone is used to playing with buttons and a controller, I think it really ruins them to change it.

Plus, there always made for right handed people, and being a lefty myself, makes it even harder to get used too.
Is it that hard to put a setting on that can switch it to left?

Bleh.

Kitsu · 10-30-2009, 02:06 AM

Much like everything else in Phantom Hourglass, I did not care much for the controls. Sure, at first, it seems like a new and innovative idea, but after a while, it gets annoying.

Many times I problems with a lack of precision with Link's stabs and slices. I would tap the screen to attack an enemy, and Link would run at the thing. This resulted in death a lot of the time, and pissed me off especially when I was in a temple and had to go do a lot of stuff over again.

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Plus, there always made for right handed people, and being a lefty myself, makes it even harder to get used too.
Is it that hard to put a setting on that can switch it to left?

I had the same problem, even after using the controls for a while, I still felt uncomfortable and awkward at parts.

NorthApple · 10-30-2009, 06:36 AM

Of course Nintendo thought of this! If you tap your game file, then the on screen 'start', there's a brown "Options" box in the bottom right corner, where you can swap the hand setting to left-handed... the difference is that swaps over the controls displayed on the touch screen, so you don't have to reach across the sceen to use an item, make a ship route, etc

ANd yes, the controls are one thing that put me off playing PH for around a year >> I still can't make Link roll when I mean to, but for the most part I'm okay with the controls now~ Again, I have a problem with the accuracy of the sword swipes too, and often walking around annoys me- he doesn't go fast enough half the time, and multiple rolls (if I can actually manage them) only make Link dizzy >|
But at the start, I was all over the place with them xDD

basement24 · 10-30-2009, 09:11 AM

The only control I found to be difficult was making the small circles at the edge of the screen in order to roll. I eventually got the hang of it, but at first I was rolling in all sorts of directions I didn't want to be rolling in or I wasn't rolling at all.

I think even once you get the hang of rollign in general, directing it specifically at a tree was not an easy task since you were making circles. They really had to be small in order to give you the direction you wanted, and then if they were too small they didn't register.

Really, it wasn't needed in the game much beyond getting a couple of rupees (which were plentiful anyway...) so I didn't use it much. It also was a poor form of travel because you got dizzy after a few rolls.

Other than that, I thought the controls were extremely easy. Some things like directing the bombchus was the easiest way to do it in a Zelda title yet. I think the second most difficult aspect though to get used to is holding the DS in your non-dominant hand for hours at a time. That became a bit of a pain I found, even for something so light.

Welbanks · 10-30-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NorthApple

Of course Nintendo thought of this! If you tap your game file, then the on screen 'start', there's a brown "Options" box in the bottom right corner, where you can swap the hand setting to left-handed... the difference is that swaps over the controls displayed on the touch screen, so you don't have to reach across the sceen to use an item, make a ship route, etc

Really? How did I know know about this?
Well perhaps I should play through it again with that control shceme, might make it slightly less annoying.

Dungeon killer · 10-31-2009, 06:34 PM

I adapted to the controls rather easily, I don't know but I have a knack for adpating to controls after a couple of minutes, but the only problem I had was the rolling controls.

Bluelink6 · 11-01-2009, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Welbanks

Nah, I hated them quite a bit, kinda ruined the game for me.

I'm sick of gimmicky touch screen/motion controls. Like, for game franchises that started out having controls like that, thats one thing.
But when it comes to games like Mario and Zelda that everyone is used to playing with buttons and a controller, I think it really ruins them to change it.

Plus, there always made for right handed people, and being a lefty myself, makes it even harder to get used too.
Is it that hard to put a setting on that can switch it to left?

Bleh.

Yes. Go to the settings, I mean options, before you load your file.It apparenty switches it from right to left handed or vice versa, but when I fiddled with that, I didn't see any difference.

Neo · 11-01-2009, 12:31 PM

I believe it asked me at the beginning if I was left or right handed. Didn't you guys get that prompt?

Emicon · 11-01-2009, 01:51 PM

I've recently picked Phantom Hourglass up for the first time in a year. Very first thing I noticed was how much the controls annoyed me. Compared to other Zelda games, which were very intuitive, I thought the controls were very limiting. Sure, it was nice to have precise aim with the boomerang, bow and arrow, ect., the trade off was that walking and running became cumbersome. I still can't roll or do basic evasive maneuvers, which for me is very frustrating. Give me the D-pad any day.

Arkatox · 11-01-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo

I just bought Phantom Hourglass several hours ago, and I've already noticed that then controls are quite difficult to adapt to. Perhaps this is because I'm so used to using buttons. The new stylus-only control system is VERY different to me and is causing me problems for the first time ever in a Zelda game.

I was curious to see if anyone else found the controls difficult. Did you? Or am I alone?

Edit: As I've mentioned, I JUST bought this game. Please take this into account if you're going to share any information about the plot. Make use of the

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Actually the controls are quite easy to adapt to. They seem annoying at first, then you totally forget about how annoying it is, and it seems just as natural as using the D pad.

Master Kokiri 9 · 11-01-2009, 02:07 PM

Personally I found the controls in PH to be much easier than the other 2-D games. The only thing I found difficult was [spoiler]when I need to draw the Phantom Hourglass in the final boss battle[/spoiler]

knowlee · 11-02-2009, 02:55 PM

I honestly didn't find the controls for PH to be that difficult. Now the idea of drawing circles at the edge of the screen in order to roll was hard for me to do the first couple of times, I'll admit. But I eventually figured it out and I now know how to do it quite well.

But for me, I didn't find the controls to be that hard.

Petman1325 · 11-02-2009, 07:42 PM

Like almost everyone else has said, the rolling was pretty much the only downside. Yet, the controls in that game are actually better than most of the controls on iPod Touch/iPhone games (transparent buttons that required the thumb (I really cannot stand using touch screens with my fingers. I need a stylus)), but it also made use of the trigger buttons for quick weapon draw and the D-pad or ABXY pad for drawing up the map. It was actually quite easy to move Link around and make him attack his foes.

The only problem one would have would be if their screen was uncalibrated. Mine was last year, and it turned out to be a very hard game. Perhaps that could be used for a 3-heart run qualification? Anyways, back on topic, it was perhaps the controls that made the game easy to begin with. Since they didn't want it to be too challenging for stylus users, they would have to mellow it down a bit on the difficulty, which turns out to be a blessing unless you have very agile wrists - which is needed on a lot of DS games in the first place - of which becomes easy street.

10-29-2009, 10:05 PM	#1
Neo The One Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Age: 18 Posts: 55	Difficult Controls? I just bought Phantom Hourglass several hours ago, and I've already noticed that then controls are quite difficult to adapt to. Perhaps this is because I'm so used to using buttons. The new stylus-only control system is VERY different to me and is causing me problems for the first time ever in a Zelda game. I was curious to see if anyone else found the controls difficult. Did you? Or am I alone? Edit: As I've mentioned, I JUST bought this game. Please take this into account if you're going to share any information about the plot. Make use of the Code: [spoiler][/spoiler] tag! __________________ "It is the duty of the people to overthrow oppressive governments."-On Civil Disobedience Please click the banner and pay us a visit! My special OoT Glitch Walkthrough For the Shadow Gauntlets.

10-30-2009, 06:36 AM	#5
NorthApple Elharc the Healer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The ceiling. Posts: 133	Of course Nintendo thought of this! If you tap your game file, then the on screen 'start', there's a brown "Options" box in the bottom right corner, where you can swap the hand setting to left-handed... the difference is that swaps over the controls displayed on the touch screen, so you don't have to reach across the sceen to use an item, make a ship route, etc ANd yes, the controls are one thing that put me off playing PH for around a year >> I still can't make Link roll when I mean to, but for the most part I'm okay with the controls now~ Again, I have a problem with the accuracy of the sword swipes too, and often walking around annoys me- he doesn't go fast enough half the time, and multiple rolls (if I can actually manage them) only make Link dizzy >\| But at the start, I was all over the place with them xDD __________________ Completed: LttP, OoT, MM, OoS, MC, WW, TP, PH \| In Process of Completing: LoZ, AoL, FSA, OoT MQ, OoA \| Hesitant to play: LA \| Can't Play: FS Currently Working On: OoA (1st time: locating dungeon 6) "Anyone can draw. Anyone can attempt to recreate what they see in front of them - or a scene they imagine - by making marks on a piece of paper. If you hear someone say "I can't draw", slap them for me. As long as they have a moving part to which a pencil can be taped, they can draw." ~spoonbard

10-30-2009, 09:11 AM	#6
basement24 There's a Bazooka in TP! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Age: 28 Posts: 683	The only control I found to be difficult was making the small circles at the edge of the screen in order to roll. I eventually got the hang of it, but at first I was rolling in all sorts of directions I didn't want to be rolling in or I wasn't rolling at all. I think even once you get the hang of rollign in general, directing it specifically at a tree was not an easy task since you were making circles. They really had to be small in order to give you the direction you wanted, and then if they were too small they didn't register. Really, it wasn't needed in the game much beyond getting a couple of rupees (which were plentiful anyway...) so I didn't use it much. It also was a poor form of travel because you got dizzy after a few rolls. Other than that, I thought the controls were extremely easy. Some things like directing the bombchus was the easiest way to do it in a Zelda title yet. I think the second most difficult aspect though to get used to is holding the DS in your non-dominant hand for hours at a time. That became a bit of a pain I found, even for something so light. __________________ Don't make Link angry. Please look over the rules!

10-31-2009, 06:34 PM	#8
Dungeon killer Dungeon's Shall Fall! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Destroying Dungeons. Age: 11 Posts: 216	I adapted to the controls rather easily, I don't know but I have a knack for adpating to controls after a couple of minutes, but the only problem I had was the rolling controls. __________________ Please follow the rules http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=344. Long posts get praise. Short posts get nothing. Please make Long posts and get rewarded today! Dungeons shall fall, and I shall rise!

11-01-2009, 12:31 PM	#10
Neo The One Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Age: 18 Posts: 55	I believe it asked me at the beginning if I was left or right handed. Didn't you guys get that prompt? __________________ "It is the duty of the people to overthrow oppressive governments."-On Civil Disobedience Please click the banner and pay us a visit! My special OoT Glitch Walkthrough For the Shadow Gauntlets.

11-01-2009, 01:51 PM	#11
Emicon Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: OH Age: 19 Posts: 50	I've recently picked Phantom Hourglass up for the first time in a year. Very first thing I noticed was how much the controls annoyed me. Compared to other Zelda games, which were very intuitive, I thought the controls were very limiting. Sure, it was nice to have precise aim with the boomerang, bow and arrow, ect., the trade off was that walking and running became cumbersome. I still can't roll or do basic evasive maneuvers, which for me is very frustrating. Give me the D-pad any day.

11-01-2009, 02:07 PM	#13
Master Kokiri 9 Sage of Insanity Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Blubble Lake Age: 14 Posts: 694	Personally I found the controls in PH to be much easier than the other 2-D games. The only thing I found difficult was [spoiler]when I need to draw the Phantom Hourglass in the final boss battle[/spoiler] __________________ = Dead http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Catch_rate And who said Pokemon was kid's stuff? I'm gonna part hearty with my Pokemin army!

11-02-2009, 02:55 PM	#14
knowlee The ST train's a comin'! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ...no comment... Age: 20 Posts: 213	I honestly didn't find the controls for PH to be that difficult. Now the idea of drawing circles at the edge of the screen in order to roll was hard for me to do the first couple of times, I'll admit. But I eventually figured it out and I now know how to do it quite well. But for me, I didn't find the controls to be that hard. __________________ ~The Queen of Awesomeness' Graphics~Fanfiction~devART~Knowlee's Prints~Dead Fantasy Fans If you have Christ in your heart copy this into your sig For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, for whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

11-02-2009, 07:42 PM	#15
Petman1325 Poe Catcher Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Here. Age: 15 Posts: 755	Like almost everyone else has said, the rolling was pretty much the only downside. Yet, the controls in that game are actually better than most of the controls on iPod Touch/iPhone games (transparent buttons that required the thumb (I really cannot stand using touch screens with my fingers. I need a stylus)), but it also made use of the trigger buttons for quick weapon draw and the D-pad or ABXY pad for drawing up the map. It was actually quite easy to move Link around and make him attack his foes. The only problem one would have would be if their screen was uncalibrated. Mine was last year, and it turned out to be a very hard game. Perhaps that could be used for a 3-heart run qualification? Anyways, back on topic, it was perhaps the controls that made the game easy to begin with. Since they didn't want it to be too challenging for stylus users, they would have to mellow it down a bit on the difficulty, which turns out to be a blessing unless you have very agile wrists - which is needed on a lot of DS games in the first place - of which becomes easy street. __________________ The wisest man is the one who sets the path right. Set yours by checking up on the rules. Petman's Mind is back! The Petman's Mind Store is open for business!